tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11188695.post7028888239514618001..comments2023-11-03T05:46:16.883-05:00Comments on Simon Says...Run: SUB-3Chadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08412073727859282887noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11188695.post-18493765868841890042007-12-27T15:15:00.000-06:002007-12-27T15:15:00.000-06:00Quick comments in reply about the 15 at MP run. 1)...Quick comments in reply about the 15 at MP run. <BR/>1) You shouldn't do much more than 90-100 minutes in total at MP for the workout. If that gets you to less than 15, that's OK. <BR/>2) Doing it by myself I've found it better to do it as 4 x 6km, and take a 3 minute jog in between to take on fluids etc than straight through 15 miles. With others (perhaps as part of a half-marathon) I'd do it straight through.<BR/>3) Once a month is about right for this workout, perhaps at 12, 8, and 4-5 weeks out from the marathon.Evan Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11535512581510397532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11188695.post-44561207609831441642007-12-27T14:58:00.000-06:002007-12-27T14:58:00.000-06:00I've been wondering about over distance long runs ...I've been wondering about over distance long runs too. Last cycle I did an 18 miler with 15 at mp. It was the 1st time I've tried it and I found it challenging but satisfying. I felt like it gave me a lot of confidence, but when the race came around I could not muster the speed. So I figure I blew it on a training run or I needed more endurance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11188695.post-84784004962517491482007-12-26T11:25:00.000-06:002007-12-26T11:25:00.000-06:0022 with 15 at MP is a very hard run, in my opinion...22 with 15 at MP is a very hard run, in my opinion, and probably comparable to (if not harder than) a 30+ miler in terms of the effort and recovery time. I think they both have their place. I would not do more than one of either of those in a month, myself.<BR/><BR/>Overdistance works for some people. If you have not tried it, you would not know if it "works" - though in my mind, it's hard to call any run wasted. But some are humbling learning experiences...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11188695.post-50975293511825749112007-12-26T08:28:00.000-06:002007-12-26T08:28:00.000-06:00Andrew, I don't know if I'll get over distance, bu...Andrew, I don't know if I'll get over <I>distance</I>, but definitely over <I>duration</I>.<BR/><BR/>Evan, you're one of the people talking about 30 mile runs, now you're saying 22 with 15 at MP - make up your mind. :) BTW, given how conditions changed overnight, I'm guessing my 22 was easier than your 20.<BR/><BR/>Ryan, congrats on the "major life change". There's a reason I run at 5 AM and it's not because I enjoy getting up so early - it's best for the family.Chadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08412073727859282887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11188695.post-13534082030296221602007-12-24T09:45:00.000-06:002007-12-24T09:45:00.000-06:00Glad to see you are keeping up your top-notch form...Glad to see you are keeping up your top-notch form. <BR/><BR/>On a side note, I'd be interested in a future post about how you've managed your training while balancing your daddy duties. I've got a major life change coming.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18340810097551928846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11188695.post-18959898552006310672007-12-23T17:12:00.000-06:002007-12-23T17:12:00.000-06:00The thought of you having done 22 yesterday kept m...The thought of you having done 22 yesterday kept me going at points in 20 today. Thanks!<BR/><BR/>A 30 mile run is lots of fun with good company, and all due respect to Ron Daws' statement about how can you race 26 miles if you can't run 30, but ... my question would be, "what problem with your marathons requires the over-distance run?" 22 with 15 at marathon pace might be even better. All grist for discussion on a long run!Evan Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11535512581510397532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11188695.post-38558587228118426822007-12-22T18:38:00.000-06:002007-12-22T18:38:00.000-06:00You're going to turn into an ultra runner if you'r...You're going to turn into an ultra runner if you're not careful ;)Kelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07350787540136262813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11188695.post-10688855164537635092007-12-22T16:46:00.000-06:002007-12-22T16:46:00.000-06:0020 is not enough, I say go for 30!20 is not enough, I say go for 30!Runner Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01338914642832129177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11188695.post-51854870971698841992007-12-22T10:26:00.000-06:002007-12-22T10:26:00.000-06:00I'm thinking about running some over distance long...I'm thinking about running some over distance long runs this time around too. Later in the cycle though.<BR/><BR/>You're doing great.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03279497885714621045noreply@blogger.com