tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11188695.post5383995155534090878..comments2023-11-03T05:46:16.883-05:00Comments on Simon Says...Run: BIG DEALChadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08412073727859282887noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11188695.post-58624183187800714272008-05-06T09:10:00.000-05:002008-05-06T09:10:00.000-05:00Here are my two cents, I bought 205 last year alon...Here are my two cents, I bought 205 last year along with runing in Hyland park, I also use it when I go fishing, I mark all the good spots and keep going back to the same spot and catch my limit, very useful tool for ice fishing as well, can't get lost on the lake, Garmin will bring you back to your starting point.<BR/>- ImranAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11188695.post-51836171278784076872008-05-06T04:59:00.000-05:002008-05-06T04:59:00.000-05:00I would agree with all the points made here by oth...I would agree with all the points made here by others on the Garmin. The 305 is nice if you want HR data, but otherwise the 205 is exactly the same.<BR/><BR/>I wear mine in races to collect data, and in longer races for pacing as well. For example, in my first marathon, the first mile marker put me at 5:45 and the second at 6:00, but I knew from the Garmin that I ran 5:54 and 5:52. Without the Garmin, I would have freaked out.<BR/><BR/>One point that wasn't mentioned, if you are doing trails in *consistent* tree cover, you will still drop signal occasionally. The solution is the <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-Indoor-Foot-Accessory-Forerunner/dp/B000HZDNZ2" REL="nofollow">Garmin Foot Pod</A>, which you can pick up for an additional $40 or so (the 'old' version). It's excellent for treadmill use as well.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16289568704502576258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11188695.post-38956312235016874362008-05-05T21:26:00.000-05:002008-05-05T21:26:00.000-05:00i've been using the 305 since late fall '07. awes...i've been using the 305 since late fall '07. awesome. it does typically take 2-3 minutes to find the satellites which can be a pain in the winter when its chilly or when you just want to walk out the door and hit start. i find it to be very very consistent (eg each lap around lake harriet measures exactly the same every time). i never thought about the skiing angle but that is a good point, this thing can be used for biking, skiing etc with very little tweaking (not so w/polar etc). overall, good tool. my GIG distance measure 6.35 which was frustrating, i have no idea on that one.brenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07920379694004002185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11188695.post-61410940180553668082008-05-05T20:55:00.000-05:002008-05-05T20:55:00.000-05:00I've been on team Garmin 305 for a couple years no...I've been on team Garmin 305 for a couple years now. I was pretty happy at the time to get mine for $265. I've worn it during a few races mostly so I could see how my perceived effort matched up with my pace at the time. I don't race a ton, so it's also nice to have a pace indicator for the first mile or two. After that, I don't look anymore, because I'd rather go by effort. <BR/><BR/>In the Get in Gear this year, the second half was really gnarly, especially heading west across the Ford bridge. I didn't want to know what my pace was then. Likewise with the Lake Johanna 4 mile. There was slush and snow all over, and you had to go by effort.<BR/><BR/>The bottom line for me though is that I really really like to look at charts and graphs, and with the 305 you get some really cool data. One more thing - it's awesome for ski races, where you can <A HREF="http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/kml/episode.kml?episodePkValues=2036117" REL="nofollow">look at</A> a really cool Google map of the course.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15251846875067789996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11188695.post-14316049538154431972008-05-05T15:49:00.000-05:002008-05-05T15:49:00.000-05:00Chad, Jan and I share a 205 and we love it. Kevin...Chad, <BR/><BR/>Jan and I share a 205 and we love it. Kevin is right -- reception is never an issue (it was with Jan's old 201). It almost always gets a signal.<BR/><BR/>Jan uses it all the time, but I'm more "old school" -- I think it can take away some running "self-awareness" that I like to have.<BR/><BR/>That said, previous posts have hit upon the best attribute of the unit -- the ability to set up whatever tempo/interval/speed work you want, wherever you want. No more going to a track if you are sick of running around in circles.<BR/><BR/>I suppose it could be useful in a race where the course is unknown to you or where splits may be off, but I'm still knocking off the "big ones" (i.e., Human Race, GiG (oops)) that distance accuracy is generall not an issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11188695.post-22333766824339653602008-05-05T14:44:00.000-05:002008-05-05T14:44:00.000-05:00I got a 305 a few months ago, and it's incredibly ...I got a 305 a few months ago, and it's incredibly addictive. I can't run without any more!<BR/><BR/>I wore it for a race yesterday, and experimented with the heart rate alarm (an experiment that won't be repeated).<BR/><BR/>Of course it also measured the course as a bit over .1 miles long, but I won't question the accuracy. After all, even if it was indeed long, it was still the same distance for everyone else out there.Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07802380462713592586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11188695.post-30352180150664805662008-05-05T14:03:00.000-05:002008-05-05T14:03:00.000-05:00Firstly, I have to agree with you about base build...Firstly, I have to agree with you about base building. Starting over after an event is so boring/frustrating. There is nothing to report or say. No ground breaking run or lung bursting training. Just slow and steady. Yippie, low HR!<BR/><BR/>I know it'll get better and I know the training is SUPER important, but it is very boring. <BR/><BR/>Secondly, I like to use the 305 for pacing on the course. A lot of times there are no mile markers or they are way off, so using the race markers can really screw with your pace. Also, if the course is REALLY long, it helps to know that it wasn't you 'having a bad day' but that the course was long. I know that sounds like a cop-out, but I really mean that you can use the true distance as the measuring stick rather than what you 'thought' was the distance.Formulaichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02270473203747687169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11188695.post-14705761935983066842008-05-05T13:44:00.000-05:002008-05-05T13:44:00.000-05:00Hey Chad. I'll give you my perspective as an avid...Hey Chad. I'll give you my perspective as an avid Garmin wearer. First off- I bet you'll be ok on the trails as far as reception- these things pickup signals very well.<BR/>I've worn mine in races to try to keep my pace down for the first portion of races, but I think I also get mentally pigeonholed into my pre-race pace in the later miles. Even if I would have otherwise pushed it- I might not event hink about it because I'm hitting "my pace". I'm trying to re-learn to pace in races without it- but it's awesome for training. Especially for running new courses without mapping them, and for getting speedworkouts in away from a track. I have the 305, and it's very versatile for speedwork. I also love it because I subscribe to that low-heart rate business during bas building season. As far as complaining about long courses- I'll ignore it if it's only a few hundreths long because that can be caused by not running tangents, but when it starts getting over .1 miles in a 5k for instance- it makes me question the course a little.Kevin L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14040054183577650591noreply@blogger.com